Aaron Lipkin and Daniel Wright: The Forgotten Feast


>You’ve heard of the seventh
feasts of Israel. Is there an eighth feast? >And here to discuss that
question is Aaron Lipkin.
Aaron, good to have you here at Prophecy Watchers!
>>Good to be with you. And to
Aaron’s left is Daniel Wright. Daniel, you
want to introduce yourself to
our audience? >>>Yes, I’m the designer. I
work with Prophecy Watchers. I
do the magazine each month, I write an article
most every month, not every
month. >And you love to travel to
Israel. Of course Aaron lives in Israel
and he conducts tours and you’re working with him on
another tour, right?>>>That’s
correct. We have a partnership The Scholars Insider Tour is
coming in May and Aaron’s company is– our service team on the ground
and our go-to company for expertise and we’re looking
forward to it very much.>Now
Aaron has produced a couple of DVDs which we’ve
talked about. One is called
“The Gate of Heaven,” the title “Bethel” the other is
called “The Footsteps of God.” Concerning Gilgal. But today
we’re going to talk with a –about a really
exciting DVD called “Shiloh” and Shiloh is a place in Israel
that has very special significance. One of
the things that you do when you produce these DVDs and when you
take tours is your try to
emphasize the connection between Scripture and archeology.>>Correct.>I
think you’ve done a marvelous
job at it.>>Thank you, thank you.
>Let’s talk about Shiloh the forgotten feast. What is Shiloh and what is this
feast?>>Well we know from the Bible that Shiloh is
the place where the tabernacle stood for most of the time of
Joshua and the Judges. So we’ve been reading it in the
Bible for thousands of years for
everybody and their house and their church. But
when we physically stand in the place suddenly realities can
come to life. Okay? So we know the tabernacle
stood in Shiloh but where in Shiloh? And so
you’re looking for it. And in the DVD we’re talking
exactly about the location of
where the tabernacle stood. And when we
read the other stories,>Let me stop you
right there. Can you find exactly where it stood?
>>Well,>And if so, how? Because it’s been a long,
long time since it was there.
>>So first we have to ask why are we looking for it?
Why are we looking for the place of the tabernacle? I can
say, I can speak for myself if the ark of the covenant was
in the tabernacle and we know that it was,>Mhm.
>>that with the tablets of Moses, if we know that Samuel
was sleeping adjacent to the tabernacle and heard God
speaking, I want to come back
to the –to that place. That is a
place that defines my beliefs it defines my identity. A place
where heaven touch Earth, where God
speaks to men. And so that is why we have that
motivation. And so when we’re looking at Shiloh, at ancient
Shiloh where we know that this place is
ancient Shiloh, we immediately are running to
search for this place. And
again, where is it? We know that the
tabernacle was a temporary structure, so how can
we find archaeological evidence for a place for a structure
that was temporary? It’s not the temple, we don’t
have wars, we don’t have–>You know, I’ll stop you
there again because that’s
causing me to think. We’ve all read about
the tabernacle. which was designed to be folded
up and moved and set up in another place but
I’ve never really thought about, how do you
prepare the ground for the tabernacle before you set it
up? Obviously you’d have to
level it off, dig something, so maybe
there would be traces there.>>Correct, correct. You
also have to take other things
into account. We know that the tabernacle that went
up to the temple were set aligned east to west. The
entrance to the tabernacle, the
entrance to the temple is always facing east. So you
really need to look for a place that can fit that direction.
That’s one of the reasons why we think we know where the
tabernacle stood in Shiloh on a certain platform that is
exactly aligned east to west. So you need to look for a place
that is the right direction, you need to look for
a place that included the exact
dimensions and we know that the tabernacle
in the courtyard had certain dimensions. We speak
about that in the DVD. That’s
one of the conditions of defining the place where God
spoke Samuel where the ark of the covenant
was.>The way you produce DVDs
I think is very clever. You have a
companion and the two of you
are strolling around having a conversation
about all these places. Your
companion on this particular DVD is a
gentleman by the name of Zac Waller. Tell us about
him.>>Okay. Zac is a very good friend of the
Lipkin family. He belongs to a Christian ministry called
HaYovel, it says in Isaiah at the end of
times the foreigners will be your
vine dressers. Tommy Waller who is Zac’s
father read this prophecy and when he came to Israel he
heard the plight of Israel vineyard owners, that they need
people to help them harvest the grapes. So
Tommy says, ‘the Bible says I need to do it, and there
is a need. I want to support Israel, these things come
together.’ So he established a
ministry called HaYovel, and today
HaYovel is the biggest volunteer project in Israel of
Christians coming and helping Jewish farmers
harvest grapes. And it’s a great way to be part of the
land, to be part of the redemptive project of geullah,
Messiah.>>>Geullah. What’s that word, ‘gelluah’?
>>Geullah, redemption.
>Redemption. The idea of redemption on a large scale, redeeming the
whole land of Israel and preparing the way for the
kingdom. Now. Back to Shiloh, this is an amazing place when we toured Israel March of
2015, we were there at the time–and
Daniel remembers this well– we
were there at the time of a solar eclipse. Everybody
had read about the eclipse in the weeks
before we went, but we never
thought we would be just entering the
grounds of Shiloh at the time
of this eclipse. For some reason, it
made a big impression, didn’t
it?>>>It did. It was taking the group down the
slope– I call it ‘Shiloh’ as well–at
Shiloh when you’re there
there’s a visitor’s tower that you go into and they have
a multimedia presentation
that’s really very well done.>It is.>>>And
tells briefly the history but then after we exited that
building we were descending the
slope probably, I don’t know, 100
yards at the most to this
soccer-field sized rectangle that is aligned east
to west like he is describing.
Right. When we got down there we were
talking about the Biblical
references and at this very well could be the
actual site where the tabernacle stood, where
Samuel heard the voice of God and at that point it was
cloudy but there was a partial solar eclipse
going on and everyone was enamored. We were able to
arrange to have a solar eclipse
on our tour. >Yeah.>>>Actually, it’s the
other way around.>>We arrange solar eclipses to all
our tours. (Gary chuckles)
>>>Yes, yes. It’s a challenge, but for some
reason Aaron’s able to pull it
off each time. >>Absolutely, have connections.
>>>Yes, you do. (chuckles)>Now you’re connected with Avi.
>>With the Father. >Exactly. (chuckles) The
forgotten feast. Shiloh is the place where we
have the story of the miraculous birth of a
prophet. Samuel the prophet was born to a woman who could
not have children. And so this whole thing sort of
sets the stage for this. Tell us about that.>>Well
first of all I think that the interesting thing that
comes out of Shiloh, one of the most important things is the
power of prayer. And we hear that Hannah,
“Channah” in Hebrew, cannot bear children. And she
wants a child and she goes to the tabernacle in Shiloh with
her husband. It’s very interesting that they’re going
on a feast and we read in the book of Samuel they come
on the feast of the Lord, from year to year. This is very
interesting, this is very interesting
combination of words that also
appears in the story of the concubine
in the book of Judges. If you
recall there is a terrible war amongst
the tribes of Israel>Yes.>>over a
concubine, and we hear that the Israelite
tribe they ban the tribe of Benjamin.
They don’t want to marry their wives, their
daughters with the tribe of
Benjamin. And after a certain time they
understand that that vow is a very very bad vow because
it takes the whole tribe of Benjamin and cancels it from
the list of tribes of the sons of Jacob. So
they decide to find a way to go
around that vow and they recall there
is a feast of the Lord from year to year in
Shiloh. >Hm.>>So again this phrase,
“the feast of the Lord from
year to year” appears in the book of
Judges at the beginning of the book of
Samuel. So what is this feast? So when we’re looking at
the book of Judges, we might think the tabernacles
or Passover or Pentecost or maybe one of the other
feasts that we hear in the
Bible, but we see that first of all
it’s connected directly to
Shiloh, and we hear that the girls of
Israel dance in the vineyards. Now
this is not something that we
know of other feasts, so what is
this feast? When we go to the Jewish
sources we hear that the two most happiest days in the
Jewish calendar are the Day of Atonement, Yom
Kippur, and the fifteenth day of the
Hebrew month of Av. Oh, so there’s an
interesting celebration of some sort that
happens in the middle of the summer which
happens to be the time of the
harvest of the grapes and what do we do? We
see girls of Israel dancing in the vineyards. And
when mentioning it the words in
Hebrew, and this is very
important to read the Bible in Hebrew,
the words (speaks Hebrew) from
year to year, are an ancient feast is only mentioned specifically
with the feast of the Lord. And it also appears
in the book of Samuel when Elkanah, the father of Samuel,
comes to Shiloh to pray to God. So this
is apparently a very important feast in the time of
the Bible. >This is fascinating to me
because, and again I’ll hold this DVD up, it’s called “The
Forgotten Feast.” Now you know why it’s called the
forgotten feast. If a feast, one of the feasts of the
Lord was sort of pushed back until now, we’re living in the latter days. I’ve said
it for a long time, when Israel came back
into the land beginning back in 1897 First Zion’s Congress and
moving on forward to statehood and all of
the modern historical events in the life of Israel,
the old things that were hidden began to be revealed.
This is one of them, obviously.
>>Correct. >So we think about the seven
feasts of Israel. Now we are looking at an eighth feast.
Which I think–and it has to do
with the fruit of the vine
>>>Excellent.>which is always
associated with celebration, with
rejoicing. That sort of thing.>>Yes.
>That’s amazing!>>Yes it is. And we’ve always read in the
Bible for thousands of years
that the girls of Shiloh dance in the
vineyards on the 15th of Av. But when you live in Israel,
when you live in Samaria on the hills, the same hills
that Jeremiah said that vines will yet be planted in the
mountains of Samaria after the
big destruction of Zion at the time of the
Babylonians. Today when you live in Samaria and you see the
vineyards growing and you see that the harvest
time is the 15th of Av it’s physically in front of you, you
feel it, you feel the need to thank God for the vines, for
the grape juice, >>>And for the nation of
Israel.>>And for the nation of
Israel.>>>Absolutely. >You know the seal of Israel
has the picture of the
grapevine on it.>>Right. And the sign that the grapes is in a way,
what symbolizes the land of Israel when the
spies come back to the Israelites to show
them how much the land is good, they bring the huge
grapes, the big grapes.>>Yes. >>That is good, that is the
sign of Israel. And in a way the forgotten feast, the 15th
of Av that the day of love, the day of unification is
also a big celebration of the
land of Israel. It’s so to say an independence
day or maybe a thanksgiving like you have in
the United States.>What a
prophetic picture that is, and
of course we love to study Bible
prophecy. Israel IS Bible
prophecy, by the way. Every bit of it. I
want to go to Genesis 49. This is Jacob prophesying over his
sons. He talks about Judah. Judah is
the royal tribe of Israel, out of which
will come the Messiah. And in verse ten here he says
“The sceptre shall not depart
from Judah, nor a lwagiver from between his
feet, until Shiloh come;” and that’s the place we’re
talking about. “Unto him shall
be the gathering of his people be.” So here we have the
Messiah given the name Shiloh, or
Shelo. What do you think that
means? From your perspective, what
does that mean to you?>>Well I think that in the short term,
what this verse does, it refers to
Samuel. It refers to the news, the good news of
establishing kinghood in the land of Israel, in the
tribe of Israel. Later on we see that Hannah when she comes with
Samuel to the tabernacle and sings a song of
glorification to God we see at the end of that song
a clear appearance of Messiah, a clear
appearance of the anointed one. And so Jacob prophecies that Samuel will be the prophet
that brings the King to the people
of Israel.>>>The line of
kings.>>The line of kings King Saul and later on King
David. The question is what does it mean for the
long term? For the future?>Yes.>>What
does it mean to the vision of the end of times to
the coming of Messiah to the
land of Israel to the whole world. I
believe that in a way Shiloh is the heart of Samaria, the
heart of the Shomron, and we are about
to celebrate fifty years for the unification of the
state of Israel with its Biblical heartland.>Mhm.>>I
believe that the return to Shiloh of the Israeli people,
the Jewish people is a big sign and goes along the
lines of the coming of the Messiah to Shiloh.>Now inform
me here, is Shiloh part of the contested territory today?
>>>Yes. >It is.>>>It is. It’s part of
the–it’s the northern segment of what I call “the backwards
‘b'” the Jordan River and so it’s in the
northern larger segment which
is Samaria, Shomron and Judea is in the
south.>So there are some
people today who would veto the idea.
>>>Veto may not be strong
enough. Yes sir. They would not.>Yeah.
>>>Right. But it’s just like our Lord to
do something like that.>Yeah.
But the Bible says Shiloh is going to be sort
of a messianic connection.>>Yes, yes. We’re
seeing that when we’re in Shiloh and
you see the vineyards that Jeremiah is talking about that
are stringing out from the land and the great wine and Samaria
has such amazing wine that’s being
produced. It’s really a heavenly wine, a
blessed wine. A wine of the land of Israel and a
redemptive wine in a way. You see Messiah, you feel that
Messiah is coming.>Now I’m reading a
few cover notes here, doing a
little cheating (laughter) but right here on the cover is
an interesting note. It says “Tabernacles
stood in this spot for nearly 400 years.” That’s a
long time! And I don’t think we think
about that, the importance of
that place if the–imagine, I mean
that’s a lot longer than America has been a nation.
That’s a long time for a
tabernacle to stay in one place.>>Right.>So this is
a very important place, right? >>It’s a very important place,
I think it’s a prophetic place
where heaven touches Earth and today a place
that resembles that signifies the current
redemption, the final redemption of the Jewish
people and I believe, of the
world. >>>Gary if I may,>>Okay, sure.
Go ahead. >>>The uh, on the point of 400
years one of the things that is very instructive to
people who go to visit this area is to notice that the city
of Shiloh, the walled city that
was there that was conquered by
Joshua is like finger-shaped or–dare I say foot-shaped
stretching to the south and on the northern end
is this flat area where the
tabernacles sat for 400 years. When you see
the general appearance of this area, because this is
an archaeological site, there’s
no town there of–the modern town’s up
on the hill above, modern
Shiloh, modern Jewish settlement. So
when you go and see this area you can actually see
what–this is my opinion–you
can see what Jerusalem kind of looked like
in terms of scale and appearance if you strip away the entire
modern city, even strip away
the Turkish walled city and go back to the
time of King David, back to the
time of Solomon the arrangement of elements,
the way the Shiloh tabernacle
was and the city following to the south is the
same kind of pattern that ends
up being adopted by David and Solomon in–>>In Jerusalem
>>>after this period, at
Jerusalem. So it’s very instructive, and
it’s just wonderful to see it
because it’s clean, it’s devoid of all the
distractions of modern
architecture.>And by the way while we’re talking about
the view of the place, tell us about there’s a viewing area
up on a hill that has one of the most
ingenious projection systems
I’ve ever seen because you are seated in a
little theater with a circular screen,
semi-circular screen in front
of you, and you see a movie about Hannah and about Hannah’s prayer to God and the
miraculous birth of Samuel. But you can look
through the screen at a certain point and you’re
actually looking at the real
place down below.>>Yes.>That’s
phenomenal!>>Yes, it’s in the
technology where glass, transparent gas is being
run through a glass and then it changes the
transparency of the glass. So
when the movie’s projected on it you can
play with the opacity of the glass and it
really brings to life the story on the actual
geographics.>So you’re watching the story of Hannah and Samuel,
>>>It’s almost like a time
machine.>It is like a time machine,>>>Very very
well done.>suddenly the scene
fades and you’re looking at the real
place. It raises the hair on
the back of your neck. It’s really exciting. While
we’re talking about that, let’s talk
about Lipkin Tours, because you
do take tours there and Daniel, why don’t you
and Aaron talk about the upcoming tour that
you’re going to do.>>>Well May 13-25 2017 we’re going to do a
thirteen day tour. It’s really ten full days in
the country. We run from the northern part of the
country all the way down to
Jerusalem. We’ll be staying in
two hotels for convenience. It is a
strenuous tour, you’re going to
have to do a little bit of walking, but it’s really,
it’s a real eye opener. Aaron’s team, the
guy we had last time and I anticipate–I don’t
who this particular guy will
be– but his team is just brilliant. They know what they’re talking
about and it’s five star, well four star in
the northern part of the
country, but we’re staying at the historic King David Hotel
which is a historical conversation in and
of itself, but I won’t go
there. It’s going to be fantastic.
>>Let me add to that that the special thing
about this tour is that, obviously we are going
to have the guide that is going
to speak about different places but what’s special about this
tour is that we are going to
meet people of the land. We are
going to be meeting people that
live in these places and you won’t be
hearing only the historical or the Biblical view but also
how people are living today what their personal
stories are, how they are connected to the places that
they live in. I believe that
that’s the unique thing about Lipkin
Tours.>>>Yeah it really
separates the theoretical from what’s really going on.
>>Right.>>>One of the things
that I also really love about this whole time
frame and what’s really going
on in this part of Israel is that all of
Biblical prophecy is not frightening or violent or military or invasions. It’s not
all–there’s a redemptive component going on and it’s
being fulfilled in God’s
promise land according to His word, and
that’s sort of what we’re a
part of. >>And you see it.>>>You see
it! Yeah! >Now quickly I want, you
believe in Scripture. That is the Scriptural connection
between God and today’s Jew. In other
words things are really happening,
there’s really a transaction
going on right now. And so when you
tour Israel it’s from that perspective.
>>Yes, definitely.>You’re not
talking about something that’s third person,
>>I don’t understand how you can, (Gary and Daniel
chuckle) I mean it’s so
overwhelmingly amazing to be in Israel and you know, knowing history,
knowing what happened in the past thousand years and how a
nation that was expelled from its homeland has returned
back to the homeland and it’s not
only that, it’s being blessed immensely, immensely by God.
Israel has become a regional
superpower in the Middle East. We have gas and oil which is something
that, you know, if you told me
twenty years ago I would laugh. We don’t have anything
in this land.>>>it’s amazing.
>>Suddenly we are blessed by
God with natural resources. We are
a high-tech nation with computers and agriculture
and technology and it’s–when you’re walking
in the land and you don’t see things through the Scripture
you’re just ungrateful. >Yeah. Well if you want to see
Shiloh,>>>Well put. Well put. >I’m sorry to interrupt.>>>I
just said “well put”.>That’s
fine. If you want to see Shiloh through the eyes of
Aaron Lipkin we have this DVD for you. It’s called “The
Forgotten Feast” and it goes
into this idea that there is a feast and
that feast was commemorated, was
celebrated at the location of the tabernacle there. This
is really, is kind of a detective story but it’s
also a prophecy. An eighth feast of Israel, who
would have thought? That’s
amazing. “The Forgotten Feast” we have it in our online
bookstore. Just go to Prophecy
Watchers, click on the online bookstore
and go down to–and you’ll find a whole collection of
DVDs. “The Forgotten Feast,” “The Footsteps of God” and “The
Gate of Heaven.” And you can buy these, by the
way, as a package. All three DVDs for $59.85. By the way we’ll include a free commemoration of the tour that
we took in March of 2015. “Join us in Jerusalem” and
Daniel you were there. You
remember we did a lot of walking.>>>We
did a lot of walking! (Gary
chuckles)>But it was wonderful. So this is
called “The Hidden Israel Package” and believe me,
Aaron goes to places that are sort of
little hidden gems that you really
want to see. IF you can’t travel there the second best thing to
do is to watch on DVD because the production of your
DVDs is very interesting. You sort of walk the grounds with a
friend and you have a
conversation with them and in the process we
are the third part who walk
along with you. It’s a great idea for
a great series. >>>There’s also really good
aerial footage in pretty much
every one of them there. They give you a really
good perspective of the sights.
>And you have a drone.>>I have
a drone, I call her ‘Penelope’
(laughter) and I take her very
very personally. She’s a great companion, an I like to
think when I see these aerial in the
video when it goes up, it gives you
such a feeling of Godly spirit that God is
looking above us and there’s God’s providence
over us and over what we’re
doing. >Daniel Wright, Aaron Lipkin,
thanks guys for being here
today. It’s been a wonderful conversation. I’m
Gary Stearman. Hey, keep
watching everybody! We are. —Thanks for joining
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